Bill says online poker is rigged and he has evidence to prove it. What do you think?
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Bill says online poker is rigged and he has evidence to prove it. What do you think?
I'm a golfing geek hiding out in Saginaw, MI and working as a Happiness Engineer for Automattic.
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If everybody was ripped off, it would be obvious. Maybe only certain people are picked to be screwed, or could bea software flaw. Isn’t the Dominican Republic where they make all the Coke to smuggle into the US? Not sure I’d trust them to change a light bulb let alone deal cards.
Bill was kidding in the article, i hope you realize that.
Yes, I know, that’s why I linked to it.
i think that online poker has way more bull shit than anything ever……ie. people catching a flush alot with 2 running cards needed
Its totally 100% rigged for action. I just played at Interpoker, and both times I hit an ace high flush HEADS UP, I lost. I lost to a straight flush, HAHAHAHAHA, and I lost to a runner runner full house after flopping the ace high flush.
Its ALL 100% rigged for action, lots of betting and maximum profit. I win all the time, but I ALWAYS LOSE IT to running bullshit cards that would NEVER EVER hit in a live game. Im a winning player online, and I still KNOW its rigged. Its a god damned travesty and it should be shut down as of yesterday.
Yeah, I agree totally. there just is too many long shot wins to be real. i’ve played on 4-5 sites and they all are like that. I play live a few days a week and only see a couple hands a night like i see online in 1/2 an hour. How often do you see 2 people with AA at the same time??? or how many times can you see AA drawn out by 10-10??? My theory is the program is set to have some people win for whatever reason, either they spend more/lose more, or whatever, and i also think there are programed hands to make players commit to hands and get eliminated, or lose alot of money ie. flop a flush/ lose to a full house, etc.. I hear some people argue this but nothing i’ve heard sounds convincing. Alot of players i talk to feel there is something wrong also, but what are u gonna do?
I agree with Dave and Steve.I used to play almost every night in live poker rooms.I used to make a second income doing that.But with my wife and I being sent to Honolulu Hi,for the military there is no card rooms or casinos here.So i started playing online poker.And I always thought to be funny how when your in and ring game it seems that they keeping money circulating among the players at the table.Almost so they can keep racking the money from the players.I don’t know maybe I’m wrong.but how is that that this guy in a tourney goes all in with pocket queens and that flop is QQ2 and another person called pre flop with KK and the turn was K and the river was a K.Not saying this doesn’t happend once in awhile. But strange crap like this seems to happend alot on internet poker.Well i could come with alot of reasons why i think online poker seems to rigged but it could take all day.My advice stay away from any online gambling.
i heard from a source that some professional player
have what they call a boiler room.4-6-8 different phone line creating different identification,
so on a table where you seat 6-10 player. chances
are your playing against the same person,
suppose your sitting on table (6max) your 2 hole cards against 10 hole card.
which your thing is to have better chance of hitting the nut? also that gives a big edge to your apponant.
keep playing!!!and good luck
Unfortunately in all forms of gambling there are people who are good at it,and people who are bad at it,poker is simply no different.
You also get people who can afford to lose a few dollars,and people who simply cannot.
To be honest I’m fed up listening to all this nonsense and until someone comes up with one mili ounce of proof then we should treat it as the garbage that it most definately is.
The point that I feel confirms this is that all the worlds’ top players now play online and do you honestly believe they would do this if they had even the slightest suspicion it was rigged?
The answer is no as they haven’t got time to moan as they are too busy filling up their’ bank accounts by beating people who are still stupid enough to be crying ”it’s rigged”!!
The problem with coming up with proof that online poker is rigged would be the same as coming up with proof that the U.S. government is scamming U.S. citizens or that J.F.K.’s assassination wasn’t planned by government officials; you can’t 100% prove anything in life that you can’t investigate. I’ve played thousands of live hands and thousands of online hands, I believe 99% that online poker is rigged. As for your comment about Pros playing online: do you really think the Pros make their money online – hell no, they make their money from endorsing the website and playing live poker, you only see the Pros playing on their endorsed site when they are required to or when they’re playing a satellite for major tournament buy-in. I agree with Steve; keep playing – you’ll come around.
yes the big boys do play online but with sponsors money and there are a few what donate all winnings to charity so whos gonna win us or them
ok well u keep playing, i wont. get back with me in a few years. let me know how it goes.
I have played on all the major sites and I’m pretty sure they’re rigged. I’m not an amateur and have played hold em for a few years now. At sites like interpoker, full tilt, bodog,cd poker, players always bet with crappy hands and get lucky everytime with big pots. I can’t even tell you how many times I have lost alot of money with pocket aa,kk to a player who hits a flush or straight on the river. I have watched alot of poker on tv and in person and have never seen people win with such crap hands or even called or played with them on big raises. Also they suck you in with their bs bonuses where you have to play alot of raked hands and sites like fair poker and cd poker rip you off like crazy for the ridiculous rakes they get. I’m sure its a scam which is why all the sites are overseas and the credit cards always get declined so they use sites like neteller,firepay etc to charge big fees to rip people off.
The rigged argument to me is yes and no. NO it isnt personally rigged, but yes there are way to many action hands to be totally legit. It seems common for the action hands that people keep relaying : runner runner flush cards, 4 people with pocker pairs same deal, AA vs KK very common, etc; things you rarely see in a B&M or home game. Ive recently quit online poker; not because of the results but its way too convenient and habit forming. I am a consistent winner in live poker and not as good online, so thats another reason. You have to adjust too much online to play more loosely, and my game suffers in real live poker. But for people to be so against the rigged theory, too many people say the same thing so we arent just pulling this from thin air. We all cant be wrong.
Come on people!! Get real!! I’ve been playing hold em’ for a long time, but am pretty new to on-line. I have done very well on-line, as I did at a live table as well. Point is, you are always going to have amateurs playing at a table that are only card chasers based only on luck. Will a flop give trips to someone that was holding a 2-5 offsuit? hell yeah!! Would a good to even average poker player have paid to see the flop? Probably not. Point I’m trying to make, is if you play your own game, stick with cards you feel are good, and know when to muck, you will be better off. It’s not rigged people. If you’re mad about losing money, maybe you didn’t have it to lose in the first place, and you should play on the play money tables for awhile longer.
Of course this shit is rigged… howcome every time I flop the best hand and move all in on th flop, when I do get called by some loser with nothing but an overcard, sometimes 2 or some bs draw will miraculously outdraw me ,about 75% of the time with only 2 cards 2 come many times hitting runner runner BS. Cuz its rigged!
RIGGED
ANYONE WHO SAYS IT IS NOT RIGGED HAS NOT BEEN PLAYING FOR A LONG ENOUGH TIME ON LINE
NO ONE IS WINNING EXCEPT THE OWNERS OF THESE WEBSITES
I have played at most the major sites. Their is definitely more action hands than normal. One game I played for 20 minutes, and not once did I get any card lower than 10….I played every hand of the approximately 15-20 hands….AA, KK, AK,tt,JJ, AJ, and the list goes on…I would hit the flush, or straight, and they would hit the full house…not just once, every time….the opponents at the table were commenting on how “unlucky” I was. It was really an eye opening experience.
Keep that bankroll alive, play live.
You were probably playing Royal Hold’em on UB where they only use cards ten through ace.
Hi, just had a look at your comments i always believed that the site couldnt be rigged, however stopped playing at 2 sites cause i was getting very unlucky (flop A high Spade Flush i go all in with 32$ other player calls with Ah 3D and calls beats me with AAAA) anyway found a site which was excellent been playing there a (year everest.com) they had a revamp last week and if you cant win a hand with flushes, str8s and full houses it seems very strange nearly (at leats 8 of 10) every hand at the table is a flush, str8 full house or four of a kind.
after 24hrs of the website upgrade poeple started saying the site was rigged and i just said they where sore losers but as the weeks progressed i saw it for myself the plays where just unreal, on the other hand i might of just had a full week of very bad luck but i wont be putting any more money at everst to find out
hi read all the statements and im not sure whats going on with the online poker im pretty good most of the time seems like i could only win what i would put in then get great hands but then lose with time after time then deposit and win but then lose never realy able to pull out the winnings and apply them to any thing but depositing again what i do know is if one player has a good hand another will to and hit only to commit there chips and kiss them good bye cant really say i have any proof to say its riged but what i can say when i wacth a 1000 dollar pot exchange hands because one player had aa and other had kk and they both hit on the flop with no flush draw or anything both would have to think best hand no way they could have pockets that did it for me im going to trusted casinos for now on and only sticking to freerolls online cant hurt me that way just them if they really allow it i do believe online gaming does make u a better player though playing hand that is set to make u lose ur money and some how u get out of it well tune u in a non stacked game to really dominate i think we will never know if it is rigged or not but we do know the online buisness is making them millions not me and im tired of making someone else rich ty hoped this helped
I’m uncertain as to whether or not I would definitively say online rooms are rigged; although I’ve seen very suspicious hands unfold online compared to live games.
As for Tony’s comment about how he knows a pro who infiltrates a table with multiple seats…I KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE BECAUSE I’VE SEEN IT!!!
My line of work takes me to many fraternity houses around the Los Angeles area and in more than one house these frat guys have elaborate setups in a single room where they hold 8 or 9 OF TEN SEATS at one online table!! Multiple monitors are set up on one wall, flatscreens blanketing the wall, and at one house there’s actually a guy keeping tally of the days wins on a chalkboard off to the side…These guys are pulling in several thousand a day…the dollar amount on the board I saw that day was $13,445.
Through digging a little deeper I found out that these guys were having more trouble cashing out from the site than they were at winning the money. It just so happens that they were playing on the same site I USED to play on, Pokerstars. And anyone who’s ever cashed out on Pokerstars knows that if you cash out for, let’s say $800, they send you these rediculous increments of $25, then $50, then another $50 and another until they reach the $800 payout amount.
So, BEWARE! The apparent “cards being dealt” scam may be true…But the REAL SCAM is that you’re potentially playing against a single room full of guys who know eachother’s cards and are really there to take you down…and they will!
Think about it…this scenario is much more prevalent than you think. It’s happening RIGHT NOW on many many tables around the internet.
Ok, Here’s the deal. I’ve been playing poker all my life. I live for poker. I play in live games in AC and Vegas often, and do very well. I started playing online about four years ago. I got to tell you, I did very well at that also…at first. I started playing at paradise poker. I was raking in the cash. Then it seemed, the more I did make (after about 2k), I was finding it harder and harder to win. Had my play changed that much? Was I playing bad? Was it just bad luck? It was all I could do just to break even. Then I figured I would try a new server. So I started playing party poker. Next thing I know, I’m winning again. Did the new poker environment help improve my play? I figured at the time, it was just a fluke, maybe I was just in a slumb. Then after winning a few thousand and cashing out a few thousand at party poker, I came across the same problem as I did at paradise poker. I couldn’t win no more. That is odd, I thought. So I would go back and forth from Paradise to Party. Nothing, couldn’t win a dime. So I started playing else where, and I’ve pretty much played them all, and found, that I’ve had the same problem every where I go. Win at first, until they mark me as a winning player, then flip the switch on me. Could this be a coincidence? Who knows, maybe. But I’ve pretty much played them all, and it seems, this phenomenon happens everywhere. A few more things, I’ve notice. Have you every noticed, it is nearly impossible to beat the short stack at the table in a ring game online, when it is clear that he is going all in(pot commited), regarless of the hands involded? Why is this so, I wondered. Its simple really, with out players at the table, there is no rake. And that is a fact. But like they say, there is no proof as of yet anywhere, and I will still continue to play regardless of what I belive. Its like I say, I live for poker.
if theres such a problem playing on a table full of people, just play 1 on 1.
also, i’d like to mention that modern society is basically built upon scammers.
your either on the top, doing the fucking
or your on the bottom, being fucked..
pick one or the other, i don’t think theres any other way. theres always gonna be a con artist
It may be rigged to give more action but even this may be BS. Everyone says this never happens in a brick and mortar, BS. If you watched the 2005 WSOP Greg Raymer was killed off by a guy that caught a runner to make his flush. Making the call aganst Raymers all in was stupid, but he gambled and won. Another example, was watching Speed Poker from Australia, I saw the most outrageous three way pre flop. AA, KK, KK, All three went all in. Obviously the two with KK thought this was amazingly odd, they both obviously lost. And if you watch high stakes poker on The game show network, you would have noticed the bad beats Daniel Negranau has taken in the last month, not to meantion Helmuths lousy debut, where he lost 150,000 in three hands. Helmuths first was FH beaten by 8888. Those watching had to hear about that “bad beat” for the rest of the show. How is it a bad beat when your opponent calls raise after raise with the 888 showing?? Maybe somewhere along he should have realized his top FH was no good. But thats the key, deciding when your habd is no good. In the very same show I gotto watch Antonio Esfandiari lay down AA at the turn when he realised or was pretty certain he no longer had the nuts. And he was right. No one online ever seems to understand that part of the game. AA is just a pair with only a 54% chance of winning in a multiway pot. 46% of the time you had better fold it. And also remember you can play more hands before noon on monday than they play all week at the live casino. the pace is dizzying online. So your going to think your seeing more action.
I’ve heard all those excuses and i dont buy them. And letting good hands go is not the issue here. And your odds are off on the AA’s preflop. I think u mean a pocket pair is 54% against any two over cards. AA’s are like 86% over any random hand, and worse if the other person has an A. Its like 80% against any other pocket pair.
If I remember correctly PokerRoom has a public database of all their hands. If this is true, there is no way the game is rigged because it would be easy to detect and they would be shut down.
rush’s comment does make me nervous, though.
casino poker and slot machines are rigged but people still play them when they know that they are rigged they take in 70% more than they pay out i know this for a fact, its the same as online poker people are still going to play because they are hooked, it a drug like smoking or drinking,and sites know this so they know that they will always get players,and who is going to close them down the governments NO why because they will lose there big income ON THE TAX
the government dont get a dime, its all offshore from what i know
the government from the country the site is based u still have to pay tax no matter what country u are in
Rigged… possibly, but maybe for entertainment value?
I have played at both tables and online and although I am realitvely new to the game, even I can see the difference in the strength of hands you receive at an online table.
I would guess that the poker sites do use some sort of software that ‘improves?’ the game by giving better hands, thus making it more entertaining and more appealling – esp to newer players. Afterall they make there money from keeping people playing and they wouldnt get much return business if your average joe (95% of online players) gets screwed by the pro’s on every hand.
If the games were ever proven to be rigged by party poker etc, then it would be a huge blow to the online poker industry. I cant really see those companies risking such a great(not to mention profitable) business by cheating.
I would guess that the only people really cheating are some of the players, which is inevitable. Invent a game and people will find a way to cheat it!
Human nature.
Yep, it’s rigged (online poker in general). But does anyone of you who think otherwise after a long period of playing, know a site which is not YET rigged? As Paradise poker a LOONG time ago.
If there were one, OK, we all would probably go to test it, but then there’ll be at least always sit&go etc. co-players to play with.
ps. I’m also tested all but couple of poker networks and think they’re scam, like (a sidenote) herbalife network marketing and pay-for-surf etc. scam promoting “making money from the internet”. Bs stinks there strongly!
just seen poker 7s beat by poker 9s ????????????????????????????????? the guy lost $100 on his 1st hand
WHAT ARE U SAYING????? POKER 7′S?????
all while reading through these. four players go all in… Pocket Aces, Pocket Queens, Pocket Jacks, 7-9. Turn 7, river 9… oddly enough, short stack was 7-9. next hand.. .two players go all in… Pocket Aces, pocket kings… pocket kings hit kk for a four of a kind win… and two hands later… bizzarly enough… pocket eights called all in against pocket eights… guess who won??? oddly enough, the guy with the eight of clubs caught a flush to win the pot (also the short stack). all this happened on partypoker while i was reading through the last few comments. and for anyone who wants to say this happens all the time at casinos… they’re full of crap, yet, as anyone knows by playing… it happens ALL the time in a matter of 30 min at every sitting on the net.
Yea party poker sucks, I refuse to ever play there again. I’ve been playing full tilt for about 6 months now. I love it. Yes, I’ve had a few bad beats, but hey that’s poker. I’m not sure if online poker is rigged or not, but I have to say that I am greatly satisfied with full tilt.
vault83
Ive just started playing Poker Online and don’t profes to be brilliant at it, but I am very consistent in the way I play.
I started playing on Sun Poker and inititially did very well and won some money. Then suddenly couldn’t win at all, even though I was playing exactly the same way. I ended up losing most of my money and depositing more. Same story, started winning again only to suddenly lose it all.
Tried Party poker. Guess what, did great at first before my winning hands just suddenly dried up, forcing me to deposit more money!
I understand the argument from the experts that its just poor players looking for excuses, but I did not change my style of play at all and went from winning quite consistently to losing virtually every hand!
I believe that it is rigged so that players get a taste for winning before losing everything and depositing more money, convinced that they will get back to winning again.
Hey Anthony read post 21.
notice the same thing win at the beginning then cant win.thought i might be on tilt so i started logging all my hands ,hand quality was terrible when i finally had marginal hand knew iwas in trouble and was ,semi-bluff never worked when they were called if i was 20 30 percent 2 hit never hit.when i did have big hand preflop and bet no callers or if i was called got run down.
I’ve been reading the postings because I’m obviously having similar trouble to what’s being described here. I’ve been playing now for 2 years online and I’ve taken the game very seriously. I have been successful, but it’s insane how nutty the tables are. I’ve just come off of a run on Full Tilt where I’ve had KK on 4 tables in a row. I hadn’t seen a premium pocket pair in probably 20-25 sng’s. I’ve had 3 of those 4 KK’s busted, and not once by an Ace. I know that I’m using a small test sample as an example, but this is just one of literally hundreds and hundreds of scenarios that I’ve witnessed online that have happened to myself and countless others. In my opinion, Rush has the most realistic handle on the situation. So I’m asking for advice. What can we do about it? I come from the middle of Corn Country where there isn’t anything but small riverboat casinos who don’t have poker. Online seems to be my only option. I LOVE THIS GAME, but I live on too much of a budgeted income too keep wasting my time getting 4/1 or better odds shoved straight up my ass! I get tired of condescending idiots claiming that I’m just whining, when they know they’d be in trouble in a live game. Yes there are pro players who are successful in no limit formats playing loose, but they also get involved in hands that get them in trouble. Yes you will see bad beats on TV, but remember that TV is edited. Sure there’s bad beats in live games, but not at this astounding rate. Online poker seems to always reward loose play. I’d love to see some tournament statistics on bad beats from real tournaments vs. online. I’m sure that anyone who isn’t a believer now would believe then. Thanks for giving me a forum so that I didn’t have to go on tilt and lose more money.
I have run into the same exact problem. Cashed out after my first month and everything was great. All of a sudden I’m getting busted by the most ridiculous hands. I don’t know if it’s rigged but the algorithm that are being used at most sites just don’t seem to keep up with real gameplay.
Online poker is for donkeys. Online poker sites make money off the rake. What better way to create more rake than to get more people involved in the hand for greater sums of money. I just observed a whole slew of hands at Titan poker. Here are the list of boards. It speaks for itself.
6s 7s Ah
3s 10h Qs
10d Ad 5s 5h Qd 5-2 beats A-4
8c 2c Ac
8s Qc 3d 5c
Jd 9d 2s
5h 3d Ad 3h 7s Jd-5c beats Kd-9d & Jh-Qh HMMMM!
8s Ks 10s 3h 6s
6h 8d As Kd
8h 7h 3s 10s
3s 10s 5d 8s Ks
9s 5h 6h
4h 9h 3c 4s 3s 4-9 beats K-Q
Kd Qs 3d
8s 3d Ac
Qs 3d Qc 8h 7d K-J splits K-J
7d 2s 4h
9c 5h 8h 3c Qd J-10 beats A-6
Ad 9d 7s 7h 9c A-8 beats Q-Q
As 9d 2c Kc 4s J-9 beats 3-3
7h 6h Js 5d 5h Ah-Jh beats K-K
And yes these last three hands occurred one right aftre the other!
For the record an Ace floped 45% of the hands, and possible four flushes flopped 70% of the time!
Online poker makes its money from the rake like any other poker room. Only they get to write their own software.
AMEN
its all about the rake. they must be paying somebody to keep quiet cause anyone who is serious about poker knows there is way too many action flops. i only play free now to waste some time. i dont know how some of you still put $$$$ on there. i cant do it.
I keep meticulous records of my poker tournament play. (God help me if the IRS raided my computer). I couldn’t help but notice that 67% rate of return fell to deep negative after I withdrew money from Poker Stars. I always thought people were sore losers, but statistics don’t lie. Don’t believe, than check out sharkscope.com (you can look at 5 peoples on-line gambling names per day for free. Put in the name and site and you can look at their statistics…seems scandalous, but that’s another blog). It is shocking how many people quickly won a couple hundred dollars before falling off the chart. I don’t think its beginners luck. If anyone knows of a legitimate poker website that makes money off the buy-ins and deals random let me know. Until then it’s the casinos for me…got to love the American Indians! See you at the tables.
To start off anyone that says online poker is not rigged or the sites themselves dont cheat are simply the people being paid by the sites to do so. I call these people “cheerleaders”, and they are every where, writing above and they are the ones you play against in the poker sites and when you complain they gang up on you and say you suck.
For one i have been playing online poker since 1999 and offline since 1989. Ive played at Party Poker, Ultimate Bet, Poker Stars, Paradise Poker, VC Poker, Poker School Online and others. They are all a scam.
For 2, in real world poker where i have played in vegas, atlantic city and foxwoods i am a winning poker player. I have tracked my losses and earnings and keep stats of my progress through the years. And My wins far outweight my losses.
For 3, real professional poker players like Daniel Negranue have said online poker is a joke. They are simply being PAID by the online sites to endorse online poker and draw suckers in. They dont use their own money because they know whats going on, anyone that says they do is lying. Online poker is a joke.
For 4, Poker sites are a business, a business that is illegal in the US and is why they are all over seas. There is no governing agency regulating them period, the way they make money is through raking hands, these hands can easily be rigged to make a higher rake and make them more money.
If you dont think online poker is rigged, simply put you are a sucker and deserve to lose your money.
For 5, playing “by the book” does not work online….why? Because the poker sites rigg the software around good play and reward bad play to further increase the rake and keep bad players hanging around.
Keeping players hanging around is how they make their money, no matter how long you play for…you will eventually LOSE.
Anyone that says they consistently win at online poker is full of crap, it is impossible.
Online gambling is all fixed, the sooner you realize that the more money you will save yourself.
Its great for practice and free play but you simply cannot make signicant money playing online without losing it back, its impossible.
They are the house, their job is solely to maximize profit for themselves. To do this they advertise, pay pros to play at their sites and rigg the cards.
Anyone that begs to differ is working for them, being paid to tell lies and “cheerlead” their BS. And make you think you are a bad poker player. Dont listen to them, and dont put money in online poker. You will lose it over time, GUARANTEED.
Online poker sites are nothing more than liers, cheaters and theives.
And we all know what happens to liers, cheaters and theives.
They might be making money now, but in the end all involved will pay. So to them i hope they enjoy their money while they can, because they wont be around forever, and id like to be their when they meet their maker in the after life….because it wont be pretty and they will all BURN for being liers cheaters and theives.
So my advice is if you want to play real poker goto a B&M cardroom and develope your game. Use online for fun only.
In online poker any 2 will do and in the long run you are guranteed to lose.
Beware of the cheerleaders, they do exist, and you can spot them, and im sure you already have.
Good Luck…..NOT
I found a cheerleader!! Scroll up to Post number 9… click the name and it goes to vcpoker.com.
Typical cheerleader saying its not rigged and that you suck.
I’ve played on two different poker sites with the same pattern that occurs…I would start off winning 2/3 of the hands. After awhile when my $$ would start getting high, I would start losing more hands, until the point where I was losing 15-20 hands in a row! I think it may be programmed so that no good poker player can make too much, because many amateur players would lose too often and quit, and the population on these sites would dramatically decrease, and so would the sites’ profits. In a nutshell, I think they keep people from doing too well. As far as players scamming others, I get a little suspicious when someone stays in with a 2-7 offsuit and beats my pair of kings when a 2 and 7 appear on the turn and river…
By the way, I still think its possible to beat the odds of mal-programming if you are good enough.
Slick you are my hero. I am not alone.
wow, i’ve been reading the last 20 or so post, haven’t read them in about a month or so. you guys really hit the nail right on the hammer. it is starting to become clear to me, that we may have a problem here after all. but for some of us, online poker may be the only option, by the way i agree with deadbird, when he says online poker can still be beat. But it shouldnt have to be a constant strugle just to make a few bucks. So what can be done? What can we profecent poker players do to help the matter? Maybe we could incourage other players at the table to visit this website, even though we all hate those bots that constantlly avertize there promising bonuses. That may help shine some light on some players, so at least they can be aware. We could also email support of our beloved poker rooms the location of this website, maybe if they get enough of them they will start to pay attention to them. Who knows they may read what OPS said, and relize they would be better off hosting a fair and balaced game. Any of you guys got any better ideas? By the way JACKS SUCK!!!
I’ve heard the argument many times that on-line casinos are a license to print money, so they have no reason to cheat. Additionally I’ve heard that there isn’t a large enough profit margin for them to do so. Although I wish it were true, it is not. Simple scenario 9 players pay 100 each to a prize pool and 5 to play a 9 man tournament. The house takes $50 to provide the forum. 8 are players and 1 the house. The house has the advantage of knowing others cards and picking the river card, thus wins every time. Now instead of earning 50 they’ve earned 500 (the original 50 and prize of 450). If I recall correctly one on-line site got caught doing exactly this.
How I make money playing online? I take second a lot. I just checked my stats and have taken second in 46% of on-line tournaments entered. My percentage of 1st is 9%. If you pay attention you can identify a player getting cards that are simply too hot and too lucky. Never go all in against this player and if you’re a great player you’ll fall into 2nd. I’ve learned this through experience. I don’t know any other way to explain losing most head to head matches with a 96% odds of winning going into the river. Tracking my last 3 2nd place finishes. 1. KK vs JJ (all in) 33J flop 2. AK vs AA (all in…ouch) 3. J10 vs JQ flop JJ10 turn 6 (all in) river Q 4. This does happen with real games, but not with the frequency I’ve seen on-line. In all fairness I have taken 1st at about 1/5 the times I’ve taken 2nd.
If you don’t want to believe you’re being taken, than believe I’m terrible head to head it won’t hurt my feelings. (In live games I’ve lost head to head once on a river card in the last year…bad beats do happen)
Saying, “You can never get a fair deal if people are invovled!”
For More info on BOTS see this article.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6002298/
Just imagine how good a bot could be if it knew your cards!